The Three Thirties and the Trada Marketplace

In 2005, Artie Rogers of NCSoft in Austin, TX, makers of Guild WarsTM and City of HeroesTM, wrote an article describing how the three thirties are vital to the adoption of a massively multi-player online game (MMOG). Much of what he described is applicable to optimizers in the Trada Marketplace, or any crowd-sourced environment for that matter for encouraging strong adoption.

So, what are the three thirties and what do they mean?

The first 30…What is accomplished
Minutes
  • Creating an online presence, establishing a name and appearance.
  • Teaching the game mechanics or rules of the game—the “story”.
  • Tutorials for taking action (e.g., how to move, look, jump, fight, etc.)
  • Choosing a thematic path, a trade or philosophy.
Hours
  • Demonstrating paths to advancement
  • Exploration
  • Ego Development—confidence building.
Days
  • Individual Project Development
  • Group Project Development

The first 30 minutes

This is probably the most important time—first impressions matter with games and software environments.  It’s important that the user is easily able to establish herself in the system, get acquainted with the interface and get started quickly.  The sign up process should be fairly quick in order to utilize the eagerness of a new member.  If at all possible tutorials should be provided; controlling and operating in the system should be simple and customizable.

This phase is no less important in a crowd-sourced professional environment.  The user should have few barriers to starting up.  However, unlike games, in a crowd-sourced environment there must be reasonable measures to ensure that only qualified applicants are granted access to the marketplace.

Considering Trada, what if you are great at coming up with relevant keywords, but lacking in your ability to write ad copy?  What if you are great at writing ads but couldn’t come up with good keywords if your life depended on it?  What if you really know the outdoor retail products and have no interest in real estate?

This ability to select an area of interest, focus, and competency, like selecting a guild or trade in a role-playing game, allows people to differentiate themselves, to not feel as though they are treated in a generic manner.  At Trada, we support the ability of an optimizer to define herself through the campaigns she may join, and in the future intend to allow copywriters to write ads that keyword wizards can use for a fee or a cut of the earnings.

No less important is defining the rules of the game—the world, if you will.  What matters?  What are the goals?  Could a player or member of the crowd describe what the environment needs for them to “win” after 30 minutes of use?  Knowing what is required of the participant is vitally important to establishing a clear sense of purpose.

Beyond learning the rules, there’s another level of learning that’s needed to function in the environment– what are the commands and tools to manipulate the system?  This step may require pre-existing knowledge or vocabulary, such as a spell-checking task in Mechanical TurkTM or knowing how to utilize an ad group in Trada; but based on that knowledge, how does a user go about creating an ad group, how do they manage it?

In my opinion, we have not done very well in the first 30 minutes at Trada, historically.  Our sign-up process has too many delays for that hook needed to take advantage of initial enthusiasm.  Tutorials and clear definition of goals have been lacking—they need to be “in your face” or at least easily available.  Our navigation has improved over the last year, but still has a long way to go.

We are hoping that with our new release focused on crowd mechanics, we’ll be able to address goal definition and newbie (and eventually advanced) tutorials.  Knowing which actions to take and how to take them will also be clearer in the new interface.

I’ll discuss the first thirty hours and first thirty days in my next blog post.

Niel Robertson on the Crowdsortium on The Daily Crowdsource

Trada’s CEO Niel Robertson (@nielr1) was interviewed by David Bratvold about the Crowdsortium on The Daily Crowdsource.

The Crowdsortium is is a group of crowdsourcing industry practitioners that have self-organized to advance the crowdsourcing industry through best practices, education, data collection and public dialog. Check out the membership page for more information.

Halfnimity

Halfnimity. When you're not entirely sure of the identity.

One of my favorite topics in crowdsourcing is the debate between anonymous and non-anonymous approaches to the crowd. While I think in the end it will take all strokes, I definitely feel that the trend is moving towards non-anonymous. The primary reason is that as crowdsourcing systems become more sophisticated, personal reputation can actually be created. Now it matters more.

Witness the growing number of crowdsourced “Ask a Question” sites and their movement towards more transparency. Basically they realize that a) it matters who answers your questions and b) you are less likely to abuse the system when your real name is on the post.  In the early days we had IRC, chat rooms, etc. that were totally anonymous. Then we evolved to sites like Yahoo Answers and Mahalo. Now we have sites that mix building knowledge with building reputation. Sites like StackOverflow and Quora are great examples of these. In fact, part of what makes Quora interesting and successful (compared to all the answers sites that have come before) is actually knowing who is answering the question. Take for example questions like “What does Dustin Moskowitz actually think about Facebook? It’s pretty much as good as you’re going to get when Dustin himself answers it (and you know the answer is his). Some other examples you might not have realized are Twitter (more emphasis on real names in the new interface) and the massive exodus from MySpace (anonymous) to Facebook (non-anonymous).

All of this is happening for two reasons: humans stick to the rules better when their real identities are traceable to their actions and reputation is starting to matter. One of the most interesting things I found out about Yahoo Answers was that they allowed Top Contributors to put this “fact” on their real world business cards in the categories they answered questions in. Top Contributor in Carpentry? Great, put that on your carpentry company’s business card.

LinkedIn makes people’s resumes more public and connects all our interactions (Tweets, comments, etc..). We all are building an online reputation whether we like it or not. If you don’t believe me check out Klout, which just now integrated Facebook. Some hotels and casinos are already using Klout scores to decide who gets upgrades. How long will it be before software companies use your StackOverflow score in consideration during the interview process. And at some point, I am sure being one of the best paid search experts in Trada will help someone get a marketing job or freelance PPC job. As I’ve written about previously, Trada doesn’t allow anonymity in the crowd.

So how do we get there from here?

Part of the big issue is that it’s such a jump from anonymity and all its benefits (and abuses) to non-anonymity and all its benefits (and privacy issues). The answer, I realized yesterday is what I call “Halfnimity.” Halfnimity is simply the format “First L.” as in “Niel R.”. I first started seeing this format in the DailyMile. I thought it was interesting partially because you could click on someone’s name and then you’d see their whole name in the title bar of the browser (this may have been a bug or intentional – I could never figure out which). Then I started seeing all of this in Foursquare (e.g. Joe S. wants to be your friend). And a few things struck me.

a)     This is the slippery slope (some may slippery in a good way) to being fully non-anonymous

b)     It’s amazing how quickly you know who a system is talking about by just “First L.” and one other piece of data (like location, or a picture, or a place they might have been to).

c)     I realized that Foursquare, in the long run, needs people to be non anonymous. Their goal is to create reciprocal value between the consumer (voyager) in the real world and the retailer (port in the social storm). That transaction for the most part has to be handled authentically (with real names) so there must be a connection between the real person and their real identity.

d)     This information is as good as anonymous to me for someone I don’t know (who is “Sally K.” in Kansas? Might as well be “KansasGirl45”). This provides a sort of interesting non-linear curve in transparency. If someone does know you, it’s as good as non-anonymous. If they don’t, it’s as good as anonymous.

Any way you take a position, it’s fascinating to me to watch this specific topic in crowdsourcing evolve. I firmly believe that each crowdsourcing platform needs to consider which versions of anonymity makes the most sense to it.  Crowdsourcing businesses now have three models they can employ: anonymity, non-anonymity and halfnimity. When building your own crowdsourcing business, or when contemplating the use of one, consider what’s important to you and what each model brings.

East vs West: Guessing the Number of Gumballs

While attending the SES Conference in San Fransisco and the SMX East Conference in New York, we decided to bring along a gumball machine and Crowdsource our favorite problem: how many gumballs in the gumball machine? (Fun fact: There is a story behind why Trada has gumballs in its logo.)

Now that we’ve got some data, here are our results.

San FranciscoNew York
# of Participants215288
Actual # of Gumballs16292116
Winning Guess16282123
Average Guess17802131

We had 215 participants in San Fransisco and 288 participants in New York. After a first pass at the data, we realized there were a number of “village idiots” (people with guesses that were significantly off). To put things in perspective, this accounted for about 0.9% of San Francisco guesses and 1.7% for New York. There were roughly twice as many erroneous guesses in New York than San Fransisco. You may extrapolate from this as you see fit.

The next logical step was to remove these clowns and proceed with a high-level summary analysis of the data.

The crowd’s average guess in San Fran was 1780 – versus an actual count of 1629 gumballs.

In  New York, the average guess was 2131 against an actual count of 2116 gumballs.

So in an absolute count, New York significantly outperformed San Fran by being off by only 15 gumballs.

Because we are overachievers, we created histograms (with erroneous guesses removed) to better understand the spread and distribution. Surprisingly, the distributions were very similar in shape and both were skewed correctly.

Crowdsourcing Picking Numbers

What we really wanted to see was: how well did the Crowd perform? First off, you’ll notice that in both cases one lucky individual guessed closer than the Crowd. However, at Trada we like to look at the Crowd’s performance in relation to every individual. When we measure the proximity to the actual gumball count the Crowd is closer than 92% of the participants in San Fran and 98.7% of the participants in New York.

The Crowd is performing, on average, at the 95th percentile. That’s impressive.

Another characteristic of the Crowd is the ability to negate individuals’ biases. In both New York and San Fran the majority of individuals underestimated the number of gumballs, 67% and 61% respectively. So how was the Crowd able to overcome this bias? If you take a look at the high-tech crayon-drawn infographic*, you will see that above the actual number, the guesses have a broader distribution. These outliers pull up the Crowd’s average.

So what’s the takeaway here?

The Crowd beats the vast majority of the individuals comprising it, and the collective result is more powerful than that of most of the individuals involved.

This is our belief at Trada, and this data just gives us a little pat on the back.

***Created by  Michael Lavrisha (@vrish88) during his arts and crafts time.

Trada Review : Rosen Law Firm

About …

Rosen Law firm is a successful divorce firm located in Raleigh, North Carolina who offer legal expertise in divorce, child custody, and property division…to name a few.

In North Carolina divorce is a complex process compared to other states. To set themselves apart from competition, Rosen Law created a niche online as an online resource by stocking the site full of free literature and E-courses for people seeking information and advice on divorce.

Lee Rosen, owner and head legal consultant at Rosen Law, has been working with Trada for 4 months,  and the campaign has been performing to perfection since day one.

Rosen Law’s paid search campaign with Trada is an EXCELLENT example of how local and small to medium sized businesses can get ahead by using paid search.

Before Trada…

Rosen was on the right track by creating content on their website to become an online destination for the target market but, even though the website was tops, Rosen struggled with low-traffic numbers and high-bounce rates.

Rosen saw an opportunity in clicks and impressions from local search term queries that would likely convert to future clientele. They  needed to keep marking costs down while remaining in control of the messaging. Paid search was the correct and most economical next step. The only problem? They didn’t know where to start and after a few weeks of confusing keyword creation by robots and no way of measuring success – Rosen needed help.

With Trada…

Rosen Law launched a paid search campaign in the Trada Marketplace in May of 2010, leveraging the skills of more than 500 certified paid search experts.  The campaign was specifically geo-targeted to include cities around their offices in North Carolina. Geo-targeting paid search campaigns ensures only prospective locals living in the area were seeing and clicking on ads – thus allowing Rosen to only pay for clicks they wanted.  The paid search experts at Trada – we call them Optimizers – immediately jumped on the Rosen campaign and started generating clicks at low costs and inbound leads. There are 20 optimizers on the campaign today.

Rosen Law worked with one of Trada’s account management team members to review and focus their messaging to set campaign goals. A conversion was defined as a sign-up for a free online E-Course offered by Rosen.

In a few short weeks there were thousands of relevant keywords and hundreds of ads ready for Rosen’s stamp of approval before running live on Google and Yahoo, the paid search networks of Rosen’s choice.

Rosen keeps control of their paid search messaging by communicating directly with top performing optimizers. The paid search experts have managed to lower Rosen’s CPA down to $12, 5 times less than the original CPA goal of $60/conversion.

In a recent Trada review in the New York Times, Tapping the Wisdom of the Crowd, Lee Rosen was quoted saying, “Really, (Trada)’s Magical.”

And guess what? We think you’re magical too, Rosen Law.

Trada Will Be at CrowdConf

Trada will be at CrowdConf in San Francisco on Oct. 4, 2010. Specifically, my CEO Niel, my co-worker Brittany and I. My other co-workers will be at SES working a tradeshow booth, while I get to go to what appears to be the DisneyLand of conferences.

No seriously, have you seen the speaker list? Jeff Howe who literally wrote the book on crowdsourcing, Tim Ferriss of the 4-Hour Work Week, Sharon Chiarella of Amazon Mechanical Turk and Luke Biewald of CrowdFlower to name a few. CrowdConf will be a bunch of researchers, CEOs, technologists, outsourcing experts, legal scholars, and artists getting together to discuss crowdsourcing.

Plus, there is a really exciting announcement that we and some other companies will be making, so register and come say hello!

CrowdConf Speakers

Just some of the amazing CrowdConf speakers

Victors and Spoils and Trada – oh my!

Victors and Spoils is awesome.

Not only do they have the world’s most casually stylishly brainwave-inducingly slick (and dog-occupied) office (with an imposing exterior that just DEMANDS that you press your plebeian nose up against it and peer inside), they have a pretty great business model.

They’re the world’s first crowdsourced creative ad agency. They combine the savvy of their in-house-team with the wisdom of the crowd. They’ve made waves in the agency world and are working with clients like Virgin America.

And John Winsor, the CEO, is pretty neat too. Not only does he cruise menacingly around West Boulder on his sweet bike, he agreed to help us at Trada (another crowdsourcing world’s first) promote our agency release by starring in our latest video.

It’s cool, because John and Trada both love crowdsourcing.

It’s ironic, because we’re aping Mad Men – and that’s the agency mindset V&S has so successfully subverted.

And it’s exciting. Trada has launched a number of agency-friendly features to revolutionize the way agencies run their PPC campaigns.

By the way, nine out of ten ADA-certified dentists recommends that you watch the original knitting video, starring our CEO. And that tenth dentist is a bit of a misanthrope, just sayin’.

Crowdsourcing is the New Internship

Crowdrising As An Internship

Learning Through Crowdsourcing

In a conversation with my friend and crowdsourcing industry leader, John Winsor (@jtwinsor), we were talking about some of the non-obvious intrinsic benefits of participating in crowdsourcing. John runs a revolutionary agency called Victors and Spoils, which is a ground up brand-focused agency using crowdsourcing techniques to produce innovative solutions for their brand clients. They specialize in setting up crowdsourcing activities, curating the crowd they work with, and managing the results produced to the benefit of their clients.

One of the things that came up in conversation was the deep involvement and exposure that their crowds get to a formal brand-based agency process. What does that kind of a customer want? What is the expectation? How does the work process go progress from scoping to review to finalization? As he discussed this, it dawned on me that some of the members of their crowd would never have the chance to work with such clients and experience the innards of that kind of process. Only if you were an intern at a big 5 agency would you even come close to participating in that process and probably only in the sense that you got the memos of how activities were going.

As I think about Trada, I see the same thing emerge. We have all types of paid search experts in our marketplace. Some that have been doing paid search since its inception, some that have been making a living doing arbitrage off of affiliate networks, and some that have less experience with paid search having learned the art through classes or personal experience on campaigns. For newer paid search experts this provides an incredible opportunity to learn not only to the process that many different types of campaigns go through to find success, but also the communication that happens with the advertisers during the process. Whether they want to only work in Trada for the rest of their paid search career, forge out on their own to build a PPC agency, or go to work for a more formal agency, they will have had considerable experience working with clients along the way. Paid search, like any performance based marketing, is deeply coupled with learning, setting, and delivering on customers’ expectations. These expectations vary dramatically from customer to customer as the dynamics of their business vary widely. Again, this is only experience that you’d get as an intern in an agency or through an entry-level paid search job.

Crowdsourcing is the new internship.

Through crowdsourcing, whole new generations of stock photographers, graphic designers, testers and paid search experts starting out in their careers can get access to working on and with clients that they could never dream of. So while many people focus on the extrinsic benefits of crowdsourcing (making money), there are a whole raft of intrinsic benefits as well.

Crowdrise On 4 Ways To Make Engaging Fun For Your Users

When Robert Wolfe was a 21-year-old entrepreneur, he wanted to build a company that was fun. Which is exactly the top priority for a lot of 21-year-olds, but most don’t manage to be so successful. (The average 21-year-old with fun as a singular top priority spends at least a couple hours in jail.) But fun was front and center from the onset of Robert’s outdoor gear company, Moosejaw: for example, customers participated in a homerun derby in the parking lot. When it was time for Moosejaw to develop an online presence and e-commerce site, fun was back at the top of the to-do list.

Fast forward to the start of Robert’s wildly popular nonprofit, Crowdrise, and he put fun at the forefront once again. Similar to Trada, Crowdrise is built on a crowdsourcing premise. As Crowdrise describes themselves, “Crowdrise is about volunteering, raising money for Charity and having the most fun in the world while doing it.” Or to truly put a spotlight their personality, their tagline is, “If you don’t give back no one will like you.” Definitively true. No one likes a taker. Everyone likes a giver. (You can read about how Edward Norton is helping with Crowdrise on the WSJ)

Lots of people have fun, but few can make companies fun. I recently got to interview Robert on how he’s developed fun personalities for both brands online.

1) Make engagement fun and worth doing for your customer.

As I recently saw on Twitter from Brian Morrissey, “The only person who wants to have a relationship with most brands is the brand manager.” So how do you make your brand relationship worthy?

What Robert and his team execute well on is making engaging with Crowdrise and Moosejaw entertaining. He takes passionate users and makes their

Napkin Used on Crowdrise About Us Page

days a little bit spicier and well…nuttier. An incredible example of this at play – Robert and a Moosejaw co-worker launched Wikipedia recently to see what was happening that day, and found that cricket player Phillip “Tuffers” Tufnell was having a birthday. They asked their nearly 8,000 Twitter followers to wish him a happy birthday and those that participated received Moosejaw rewards points.

Crowdrise includes a picture of a napkin on their About Us page. Just a funny aside that highlights a quirky personality of their brand. But what’s more is they continue to have fun with it and asked on Crowdrise’s Twitter account, “1st person to reply w/ a new pic of napkin http://tinyurl.com/33qd9y9 for us to use on Crowdrise gets a Crowdrise tee. This is the best day.”

2) Motivation through promotion

Will Ferrell Fundraising With Crowdrise

Can You Say No To This Face?

Understanding that users are motivated in different ways, Crowdrise makes fundraising, a sometimes thankless and tedious task, more personally rewarding. They offer fun promos to motivate people to donate and fundraise at different levels. Donate $9 for a chance to win an Apple Macbook Pro, donate $47 for a chance to win a Nintendo Wii and raise $7,000 for a chance to win three shower caps. And who doesn’t want to ensure their hair stays dry as they avoid washing their greasy roots? Their offbeat humor has won them big fans including the likes of Edward Norton, Kristen Bell and Will Ferrell.

As Will says, “Hi, I’m Will Ferrell. You may know me best as one of the front runners on the 50 Most Beautiful People list 10 years in a row. Some know me as an actor, others know me as the best yoga instructor on this side of town. But what I really want to be known for is the best fundraiser in the WORLD.Can you help me achieve this goal?

Yes.

Donate just $17 dollars and I will send you a bottle of my sexy sunscreen just in time for summer. Donate $34 dollars and I’ll send you 2 bottles. Then things can get really slippery.”

Even Will understands how online humor transfers to results. I’ll take two bottles, please! But I actually did donate to Will’s campaign. They grabbed my attention with a shared sense of humor, but they won me over with their commitment to a real cause – Cancer for College. An organization started by Ferrell’s fraternity brother, a two-time cancer survivor, the organization helps fund college scholarships for cancer survivors.

3) Incorporate Humor Into Your Communication With Users

Humerous Moosejaw Banner Ad

Moms Love Stickers. Fact.

Moosejaw is a company that makes even the most tedious of tasks more humorous. How many other companies offer you a list of all the best mimes in Portland for signing up for their e-mail newsletter?

Even the thank you page for my donation was hilarious:

“Thank you so much for your donation to CANCER FOR COLLEGE. Amazon Payments will send you an email confirmation of your donation within 24 hours. We’re super excited that you’re getting involved and hope that you’re already telling all your friends about this amazing cause you donated to. My seventh grade English teacher gave me permission to end that previous sentence with a preposition.”

Both brands have personality and allow it to shine through in communication with users.

4)      Motivation Through A Rewards Systems

Crowdrise Profile Points

I'm Racking Points Up

What both Crowdrise and Moosejaw nails is understanding different ways to motivate people. Not only does Crowdrise offer motivation through different promotions, it offers a comprehensive point system.

“Remember that you get 100 points for every vote you get from the Crowdrise community and 10 points for every $1 you raise or give. Points mean potential prizes, lots of respect and hopefully one day, a trip to the White House or at least a trip to Vegas.”

I received points for joining Crowdrise, by donating to Cancer for College and answering a trivia question. Reward points keep me engaged at every step. Plus, Crowdrise told me after I answered the trivia question, “you’re the smartest person in the world.” Don’t think I didn’t forward that to my boss.

Be sure to follow Crowdrise’s adventures on Twitter, through their Facebook page, and friend me up on Crowdrise. AND to sign up as a Crowdrise participant.

Full disclosure: Robert Wolfe is an investor in Trada. But that’s not why I like him. I like him because he gave me a Crowdrise sweatshirt and it is really soft.

Anonymity in the Crowd

Face in the Crowd: Crowdsourcing

Does A Name With Your Work Matter? (Photo courtesy of VividBreeze)

One of the important tenets of the Trada marketplace is that all optimizers (our paid search experts) must use their real names. We thought it was very important for our advertisers to know exactly who was working on their campaign. In addition, we felt if real names were out there it would encourage them to focus on being the best they can be (as their real name appears in leaderboards [screen shot] and such).

I had an interesting conversation with John Winsor (@jtwinsor) and Claudia Batten (@claudiabatten) at Victors and Spoils on this subject. V&S doesn’t require their creative crowd to use their real names as far as submitting their work goes. They do require their creatives to sign up using their real name and V&S takes a lot of care to vet the person is who they say they are. They do this because they feel:

1)     The verification of “reality” by V&S is good enough for their clients (they are the vouch-for)

2)     A client doesn’t want to sift through everyone’s profile anyway (even if they could see it)

3)     Some excellent creatives simply can’t let the world know they are moonlighting in V&S as they work for existing agencies which may be the AOR of the client or may be a competitor to the AOR of the client

4)     V&S doesn’t want to preclude the best of the best from being in their system due to issues of having to be public about participation and the conflicts it might bring

Interestingly, some of these anonymous creatives are having great success in V&S they will inevitably want their real name to be associated with their work. For example, V&S just produced a large TV campaign spot for a big brand advertiser using their crowd and the winning creative team will be behind a massive public campaign. I can only imagine they will want to get the credit for their amazing work. So how do you handle this dichotomy?

My original stance was that most paid search agencies wouldn’t mind if their PPC experts moonlighted in a system like Trada. In talking today about this with our VP of Product Management and Marketing, Bill Quinn (@billquinn), he asked a very simple question: would you want to know if one of our engineers was doing contract work on the side. My instant answer was yes (simply because we pay our staff as full-time employees). Now that I think about it, would I care if our engineers were working in TopCoder? Maybe the answer would be “no”, I love it when people continue to refine their professional skills and these competitions are one way of doing it. So I’m split on this.

So what is the right answer to the anonymity question? All crowdsourcing companies have to grapple with this issue. Some are completely anonymous, some are completely public. In discussion Claudia said something very important to this:

“Shouldn’t a system of ratings and rankings matter more than a real name?”

In Trada, if you’re an advertiser evaluating who is (or might be) working on your campaign what’s more important: knowing their real name or seeing that they are one of the top 10 optimizers in our marketplace? Clearly most people would pick the latter.

We’re embarking on a series of extensions to our profile system in Trada. This includes the first pass at  important stats and rankings in the system (both positive stats like conversions earned as well as negative stats like rejected keywords). It will be interesting to see if over time our requirement for being public about who you are becomes less important as the merits of what you’ve done become more. In the end, it’s not your name that will get you on a campaign, it’s your results.

For now, we’re sticking with our policy knowing that some wonderful PPC experts simply won’t be able to participate due to conflicts with their full-time jobs. I promise to keep an open mind about this subject and regardless of a change, ensure that everyone in the system can live and die by statistics as the most important measure of their expertise.